Moviex.info - Leeching From The Bittorrent Community
Posted on 28 November 2007 by Stuart
Moviex.info is a private members only bittorrent community and tracker that has been setup and configured to leech file sources from public bittorrent users, their tracker configuration allows only seeding for external users with downloading being blocked for non members of moviex.info.
The large amount of private bittorrent tracker web sites are exactly that, private and for registered members only. When a member signs up to a private bittorrent tracker community they are normally provided with a uniqe ID often called a PassKey. This uniqe passkey then allows users to download torrents from the the site and gives the sites tracker a mean’s to monitor that individuals download and upload ratios/amount.
A user that downloads a torrent from a private tracker and that is not a member of that tracker will usually get a tracker connection failure in their bittorrent client. They will not be able to download or upload any data from that torrent, more often than not rendering the torrent useless to them.
This is the basis that most private bittorrent sites work upon, most that is apart from www.moviex.info.
Over that past few months bittorrent users have noticed a sudden rise in torrent files being uploaded to public indexing sites like newtorrents.info, mininova.org, and thepiratebay.org that contains a tracker url belonging to moviex.info, newtorrents.info is indicated as being the most polutted site containing these torrent file uploads.
The two tracker urls that are present in these uploaded torrents are the pirate bay along with the moviex.info url that always has the same passkey present, presumably the passkey for an anonymous user.
http://www.moviex.info:2710/r12xjr0azivx42cjuyzn3c73mdqxj31q/announce
http://vip.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce
To see a pirate bay tracker URL present in a torrent file is nothing out of the ordinary so what’s special about the Moviex.info URL being present in public torrents we may hear you ask, well the message you get when trying to connect to the moviex.info tracker if you are not a member below should just about say it all.
You can clearly see from the tracker message that moviex.info allows non members of their site who have downloaded the torrent file to seed parts but never actually download any from their members, this is a huge bonus for moviex.info tracker and it’s members. Currently NewTorrents.info provides 1000’s of downloads per day to torrent users and reportedly 50% of the available torrents on that site have the moviex.info tracker URL present, the percentage may be higher.
These deliberatley and consistently uploaded torrent files allow members of Moviex.info to leech data from the external users that have downloaded the torrent file from newtorrents.info, the bonus for moviex.info members is that they never have to and cannot upload a kb of that torrent to the non moviex member.
It’s a pretty nice system if you want your private tracker to gain external seeds along with faster download speeds for your members, It’s however also a very damaging method for any user who is not a member of MovieX.info as they will continually upload pieces of the torrent to users who will give nothing back.
How can you stop uploading to the leech tracker of moviex.info, well if you download a torrent file from a public tracker check the tracker URL’s and remove the one below if it is present. This will stop you seeding the file on that tracker and in turn not allow members of moviex.info to leech data from you.
http://www.moviex.info:2710/r12xjr0azivx42cjuyzn3c73mdqxj31q/announce
You could also try blocking the moviex tracker by the IP Address below in your IP filter if your not a member.
206.53.62.206
Moviex have taken the time to code this feature into their tracker and at the moment as far as P2PViNE can tell are the only private site exploiting this type of dirty hack to leech from external bittorrent users.
What moviex.info should do is not allow external users with no passkey to connect to their tracker in any way, instead they deliberatley setup to leech as much from the bittorrent community as possible.
UPDATE: PeerGuardian 2 now blocks moviex.info from connectig to your torrent client, you can download the PeerGuardian 2 installer from HERE.
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Tags | Bittorrent, leech, leeching, Moviex.info, p2p abuse, p2p spam, private tracker
November 28th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Filthy scum.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:19 am
u sux dude moviex rules
November 29th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
this report is just simply unfounded. obviously written by someone with no first hand experience with moviex whatsoever. why dont you get a real clue and visit our site. you’ll see the huge amounts of data our own member do upload within our community. by far we seed more than download. our methods keep our site leecher free.
November 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
As a private tracker MovieX strives for the best interests of it’s members, opening it up for full access to everyone would dissolve the framework that makes it private. I do find their method of referral to be undesirable but that is the way the admins have chosen…
MovieX is NOT a Demonoid - if you do not agree with their practices remove yourself from association and delete the tracker from your torrents. The experience at the site is a friendly, communal one; we wish to preserve it!
Please do not mistake the intent of these ‘planted’ torrents…they are more a method of discovery than a method of parasitism…
November 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
i don’t get what the fuss is all about. Seeing as users of moviex site don’t goto the pirate bay to get the torrent moviex. The torrents hosted there do not contain the pirate bay’s tracker or any other. So they don’t benefit from it in anyway.
all putting the torrents on the other sites does is advertise moviex nothing more. since the torrents they host don’t use the public trackers and the public can’t access their private tracker no one gains or looses anything.
November 29th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
gb/2 isohunt.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
For Clarification:
These ‘planted’ torrents are more or less a subtle form of advertisement…they are intended to draw attention…silently…
November 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
One Last Bit:
As soon as one gains membership, they are advised to throw away the outside torrent…it’s invalid for use within the site, those torrents posted outside are simply generic copies of what is inside.
Thus, no leeching from anyone is occuring…
There is no basis upon this claim of leeching, it is unprecedented, unfounded, and ill-guided.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
For one thing, its mechanically impossible to seed more than you download, because even in the ultimate best case scenario, the combined ratio is going to be 0.9^ten bijillion.
secondly, yes, it is parasitism. Despite it being nearly the smallest conceivable amount ( a mighty single line of code) you(whoever is doing this)’re wasting bandwidth of the http server, the end user who is sending meaningless requests, and your own damn server which is saying, oi, you ; no.
DHT could be easily overridden with a few moments of arcana, so that you could indeed get disconnected seeds from somewhere else.
not, admittedly that i’m condeming yez. being a smart greasy bastard is what the internet has always been about, and i’m impressed that you;ve managed to find some funky way of outmanouvering the inherent Give and ye Shal Recieve mentality of bittorrent to such an impressive degree
makes me with my lifetime ration of .05 with some three terrabytes seem pitiful in comparison.
good job, exploiting the ignorant is the way to go ^^
November 30th, 2007 at 12:46 am
DHT is disabled by default within our system anyways. those torrents posted on other sites are pretty much confined to that specific tracker system anyways. many of those torrents are as said generic and arent always the same torrents that actual moviex users are connected to.
many of our users come from seeing the moviex announce url in the tracker lists. like myself - since we have open registrations, its not exactly hard to go join the site.